New wind turbine factory in Hull - thanks to Embrace supporters!
There's a great video of how the new wind turbine factory in Hull will look here. This factory is only being built because of the success of our Green Jobs campaign, which called on the Government to provide the necessary infrastructure for this sort of development. Well done to everyone who took part in the campaign!
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Scrutinize the realities of costly and inefficient wind energy projects (and most alternative energy projects, for that matter) in public spheres where tough questions can be asked -- like in court -- and it's amazing what you will learn. Such was the case with California utility PG&E, which had a $900 million deal in place to purchase a wind farm from Iberdrola, until an administrative law judge wanted it nixed. From the court decision:
"We reject the application because we find that the Manzana Wind Project is not cost-competitive and poses unacceptable risks to ratepayers. We find that the proposed cost of the Manzana Wind Project is significantly higher than other resources PG&E can procure to meet its RPS program goal. Moreover, it will subject the ratepayers to unacceptable risks due to potential cost increases resulting from project under-performance, less than forecasted project life, and any delays which might occur concerning transmission upgrades and commercial online date. As a proposed utility-owned generation project, ratepayers would pay a lump sum cost rather than a performance based cost for the Manzana Wind Project. Therefore, ratepayers would be at risk if the project underperforms. In particular, if the Manzana Wind Project fails to achieve production as expected for any reason such as construction delays or curtailments as a result of a collision with a California condor, shareholders face no risks while customers could incur increased costs. In contrast, under a power purchase agreement, project owners rather than ratepayers bear the risk of project performance....
"In short, although the project would contribute to the California renewable generation goals, given the availability of other lower-priced renewable projects in the competitive market that could impose far less risks on ratepayers, PG&E has failed to demonstrate a need for this project."
So you've got every problem with wind energy in one judgment: high costs, unreliability, underperformance, and bird-battering. This runs counter to what environoiacs and alternative energy schemers tell us on a daily basis. What's that matter -- can't California and the federal government find enough taxpayer dough to subsidize this boondoggle too, to make it "feasible?" A wind farm of this size should be the environmentalists' dream.
The answer probably is, the government doesn't want to be seen providing giveaways of this nature to the big bad utilities. They'd rather give subsidies to the renewables dealers -- the little gremlins with the Green jobs -- and then make the utilities buy the sporadic energy from them. And whatever you do, don't tick off the ratepayers with higher electric bills, lest they discover the truth about alternative energy.
Hi Matthieu,
This is a UK-based site, so none of what you've written above really applies. The support mechanism for wind power is entirely different over here and is based on how much electricity wind farms actually produce, which is much fairer. Also, over here wind farms have to undergo stringent environmental impact assessments before they're built, which looks specifically at their impact on local ecosystems.
yeah, it's a post from the US so doesn't apply.
this website is run by renewable uk who used to be called british wind energy but changed their name for some reason. so it's an advocacy website run by the trade association for wind power but trying to look like a bunch of hippie volunteers - not so.
imagine if a coal or gas power generator used the same dodgy practices!
so by being consistent you can't cite US info on propety devaluation or lack of.
wind turbines are noisy, inefficient, an eyesore and have this green fluffy aura which is a cover up for exploting peoples emotions dividing society etc.
adam why didn't you reply to my email about the salford cover up and geoff leventhall comparing pure tone thresholds with broadband noise.
Chas, it says 'RenewableUK' at the bottom of the page. It's hardly a secret. The name was changed because we now represent wave & tidal too.
I'm unsure where we've cited US property prices. You may be thinking of RICS.
You clearly have a strong emotional response to wind turbines - one which I would argue is not warranted by the facts on the ground. I would invite you to point out where we're 'exploting peoples emotions' - and would point out that the use of subjective judgements like 'eyesore' does just that.
On your email, I'm waiting on a couple of responses before getting back to you.
yes you forgot to add this to your website.
http://info.valuation-tribunals.gov.uk/decision_document.asp?appeal=/decision_documents/documents/ct_england/2525475651032c.htm
saying they enhance the area and using climate change threats isn't emotional?